million by special interest groups, including wall street, the banks and so on, that s not somebody that s on the side of the guy who s struggling. these tapes don t make him look very consistent. and karen mentioned that hypocrisy is frustrating but it s not automatically a crime. what do you see as a prosecutor as the key exposure here? well, i mean, the issue is and maya s absolutely right, if all cohen was doing was running around saying i know the president, i know the president, give me lots of money and they did and there were no connections to trump, then you have stuff that sinks, it s a my myasma of putrid swampiness but it s not a crime. for bribery you have to have a direct quid pro quo. you re speaking about the enron prosecutions, which bob
former prosecutor karen leffler. maya, this is one of those things where corporations feel and determine they must admit wrong doing. that is how bad this is. there was no three days of maybe we have every right to do this. it was immediately at&t we messed up, this was wrong, this was a misjudgment and yet thinking people and we know many smart people are among our viewers obviously know that this is only because avenatti outed them. exactly. this is business as usual. there s actually nothing illegal about influence peddling, meaning we will give you money if you help us gain influence and access. there obviously may be some serious ethics violations for michael cohen in addition to what happened to that money and how did it get spent. but at this point the real issue is that, you know, it s the hypocrisy of the trump administration. if hypocrisy were a crime, trump