they shouldn t have to also worry about the fate of our democracy. yeah. attorney general shapiro, appreciate it. thank you. perspective now from cnn political analyst and axios managing editor, margaret talev. also, cnn correspondent, jim acosta. jim, you heard the pennsylvania attorney general. how does what is happening in pennsylvania reflect what is going on around the country? anderson, what we are seeing not only in pennsylvania but around the country is a fraudulent effort to find voter fraud. is the way this is is shaping up. and i think it it goes back to, you know, we are talking about old texts and and so on. i went back through some old reporting of mine just right after the november election in 2020. when we reported at the time that trump and some of his allies and associates were having conversations just in the weeks after the november election about whether electors could go rogue in various battleground states. and for weeks after that, anderson, ther
than they had people voting. and that that doesn t play too well. the fact that this and countless other election lies have been debunked, that hasn t stopped the former president, of course, from repeating them on and on and on. nor, has it stopped republican lawmakers in pennsylvania and nationwide from trying to restrict voter access and/or re-litigate the election. in a pennsylvania courtroom today, no decision in the effort by republican senators seeking personal voter information to use in a partisan audit of the 2020 general election and 2021 primary elections. joining us now is pennsylvania s attorney general, josh shapiro. attorney general shapiro, appreciate you joining us. can you just explain in layman s terms what happened in court today and how this could fit into efforts by the former president and his allies to undermine democracy nationwide? sure. state senate republicans apparently at the behest of the former president launched an effort to try and audit the vot
i think that s exactly right. i would go maybe a step further. i think they are pandering out of a profound personal weakness. what i mean by that is they are willing to trade our democracy, to trade the oath of office that they re required to take, to try and achieve some sort of short-term political gain or attaboy as as you called it. that is that demonstrates, i think, a character flaw and a real weakness on these individuals parts. and what it really does as well is not just cost taxpayer dollars here in pennsylvania, but denies us on opportunity to deal with the serious challenges we face. that people talk to me all the time about what they worry about. how they educate their kids, how they go forth and deal with this changing economy. and right now, people are worried about that. they shouldn t have to also worry about the fate of our democracy. yeah. attorney general shapiro, appreciate it. thank you. thank you. perspective now from margaret