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ask not what your country ca do for you mr. gorbachev teared down this wall states criminal indictment of former president of the united states good evening and thank you for being with us here tonight i am rachel maddow here at msnbc headquarters in new york along with lawrence o donnel and joy reid, and nicole wallace, and chris hayes we are going to be joined by more of our closest colleagues over the course of this evenin tonight, as part of the specia coverage we know that you have ever choice in the world tonight as to where to get your news abou this historic event. that makes us all the more grateful that you are here together with us tonight. so, here is how it works just got the transcripts we know exactly how it went. the clerk. calendar number one, indictmen 71543 of 2023, people of the state of new york versus donal j trump. appearances. prosecutor, christophe conwright for the people, your honor. and judge, with me are kathryn mccaw, matthew cullen julio, steve
made that the district attorne bag has a better prosecution o the facts then the feds do because he alone has the business records crime that is not a federal crime. that is not something that the would be able to bring in th southern district. so, it is tricky if michael cohen was a full an open, total disclosure cooperator in the southern district - still decided not to go forward, i don t get to, but i do understand why we are where we are now with bragg can we also make the note that this office, this da office, prosecute this - all the time there s one sense in which the goose news about this is thi is a mundane business record crime that is not uncommon and it is not uncommon from this prosecutor so, his most recent victor against trump llc s make up the trum corporation was about business
weisselberg and from pecker. there s an argument to be made that the district attorne bag has a better prosecution o the facts then the feds do because he alone has the business records crime that is not a federal crime. that is not something that the would be able to bring in th southern district. so, it is tricky if michael cohen was a full an open, total disclosure cooperator in the southern district - still decided not to go forward, i don t get to, but i do understand why we are where we are now with bragg can we also make the note that this office, this da office, prosecute this - all the time there s one sense in which the goose news about this is thi is a mundane business record crime that is not uncommon and it is not uncommon from this prosecutor so, his most recent victor against trump llc s make up the trum corporation was about business records and tax records, e cetera, so this is something that would happen to anyone. you want to talk about thi what happened thi
southern district say that their method of, in a situatio like this, is that a witness like michael cohen has to tell them every bad thing he ha ever - in his entire life michael cohen refused to d that and so that a southern distric will not put on a case based o someone who refuses to do that full disclosure. i am glad to have lanny davi joining me at 10 pm, michael cohen s lawyer i will ask him about that. i m not sure what they can say about. it but if michael cohen refuse to submit to the souther district processes for thi kind of thing, that is the reason why they could not have brought this case. we do also have though, i was sort of surprised to see this in the statement fact today, this recitation of a lo of things that are much more about forgive me, david pecker and american media, and th national enquirer, than th hour about michael cohen so yes, mr. cohen is a very bi part of the arrangements aroun four, example, the karen mcdougal payment, and certainl he is the main mo