assistance to ukraine didn t come from the defense department, didn t come from the state department. it came from the office of management and budget. for you to believe, what is essentially republican argument here is that democrats have not proved that this came from the president. you have to believe that all these operators, giuliani included, his personal attorney, were operating in a freelance moment. we didn t know the call records existed. it was the level of coordination. devin nun etes is speaking to l parnas who is now indicted, around the time when you are both attacking marie yovanovitch and getting her out of that position, but also developing these ukraine conspiracy theories. and you look at the calls. it s giuliani. it s nunes. it s partneres. it s john solomon, reporter for the hill who writes many of the pieces still cited as a basis for attacking yovanovitch
days of our impeachment, where the only thing at stake is democracy. oh, yeah. i love the glamour and the spotlight. that s why i spent my career in ukraine and somalia. i did the thing where i would hold a magnifying glass and say, i ll look into that. but i grabbed a hammer and took my eye out. not my best day. not my worst. is rudy okay? i think he may have fixed me. everywhere marie yovanovitch went, turned bad. she started out in somalia, how did that go? as long as we re talking about track records, trump started in atlantic city. how did that go? even fox news thought attacking yovanovitch was a bad move. should the president be tweeting at her mid hearing? no. it makes him look like a big, dumb baby. that s what they re saying on his favorite channel. that s like if your kid turned
pursue our stated policy are going to be supported and that is a that is a dangerous place to be. what was clear in this hearing today was how profoundly disturbing this experience has been for yovanovitch. a 33-year career coming to a crashing halt after she had been asked to extend her tenure in kiev, then yanked out of her post by a 1:00 a.m. phone call and told to get on the next plane home and then when she read the transcript of the july 25th call about her going to go through some things, she said the color drained from her face and she had a physical reaction and it s no surprise that yovanovitch thinks there s been a chilling effect. everyone is back with me. laura, the tweet from the president attacking yovanovitch which he sent while she testified and the sitting president watching today and sending this, is this witness intimidation? i think it falls into the
when asked by reporters about attacking yovanovitch, the president reacting reacted basically as he typically does by claiming that the other side is the one intimidating witnesses, not him. the president s attacks on yovanovitch, a widely-respected career public servant, made this hearing even more of a major story on a day where republicans were trying to dismiss her as a minor player in this case and frankly, they were probably going to be able to do that. but the president s attacks on his former ambassador put republicans in an awkward position of defending her credibility even as she testified about the president s misconduct. she confirmed he then established a back channel that circumvented state and u.s. policy. but perhaps most importantly, yovanovitch s testimony may have helped democrats advance their argument that the president s conduct represents an urgent and immediate threat to u.s. interest which merits an impeachment proceeding ahead of an election. after the
they re going have to move fast if they want to draw him in. you see this as a significant and not automatic development? because sometimes there are so many things flying. this person, that person is turning over material. they re supposed to. in normal times, they almost all do. but you see this as more of an inflection? no question. especially because it was just a couple of weeks ago that parnas and fruman s then lawyer john dowd said they would not be cooperating with the impeachment inquiry. he wrote a letter i obtained saying the impeachment inquiry was on its face kind of fraudulent or fake. the fact that parnas is now actually saying i m actually going to be helpful to you guys in his specific case is a large and meaningful change, and it suggests that he s worried. when people are close associates of rudy giuliani get worried about the federal government, that s probably a reason for the mayor himself to have a fairly significantly higher stress level. professor? i co