saigon, 1975. one of the most iconic and dispiriting images. on the left we see u.s. officials fleeing saigon as the capitol fell and today we are seeing kabul. u.s. diplomats being rushed out of the u.s. embassy as they enter afghanistan. this morning journalists pushed u.s. secretary of state tony blinken on whether there s a parallel here. president biden is intent on avoiding a saigon moment. that s the hasty and humiliating retreat from saigon. aren t we already in the midst of a saigon moment? no, we re not. remember, this is not saigon. we went to afghanistan 20 years ago, with one mission, and that was to deal with the folks who a tacted us on 9/11? isn t that what we are seeing
play, he gets tacted and silence. dana: not a game i want to play. so i listen to your podcast when i walk. trying to make me walk a little faster. how am i doing? dana: good. one of the things you come back to over and over again, and i m curious about this, is the big tech and the connection between you and others that are lean right and end up finding yourself frustrated about being either targeted or demonized on platforms on which you ve built businesses. yes. there s been a whole bunch of talk about this last week. there were a bunch of exposes with behind the scene videos of leakers and whistle blowers, talking about the way they re supressing video. i had an hour and a half conversation with the you tube ceo. i got a million subscribers on
facilities in the middle east, or hit their proxy, the shia militias that are in iraq, to hit our u.s. forces there. the intelligence showed hits from the supreme leader on down and showed capability, actual movement of these forces. so the trump administration responded, i think, correctly. one thing i did learn today, the chairman of the joint chiefs personally sent a message to the head of the irgc and said, we re not going to hold your proxies responsible if americans are tacted. we re gonna hold iran responsible. that is a shift from the past and very important. dana: is that new? i got that from i guess from the b-52 s and the aircraft carriers being sent in because they can strike into the heart of iran. that s the first time i heard a senior official saying that message was explicitly sent. we have to keep in mind the
sarah sanders claimed the president was refusing to answer the question there. we also heard from her today that the white house is considering a proposal from vladimir putin that we just talked about to interrogate americans the exchange for assistance in the investigation into election interference. russian authorities named several americans who they want to question who they claim were involved in bill browder s, quote/unquote, including the former ambassador to russia. does president trump support that idea? is he open to having u.s. officials questioned by russia? the president will meet with his team. even the president s own state department calls that absurd. and saying this about russia s interference. russia tacted to interfere and he continues on malign and
kind of conclusion and move on. so he is not influencing an investigation right now. it is a special counsel, katie. that was the whole point. is the special counsel appointed by the own administration. appointed by rod rosenstein. not by jeff sessions. he appointed rod rosenstein as well. understand. but i think it is a different animal and i think most americans would think it is that is why you have a special counsel and i ve called for a second special counsel to look at this. we called for it seven months ago. that is what it needed to look at this whole sordid mess with what the fbi did clear back through the fbi investigation and the trump-russia investigation and we do need a second special counsel and we called for it several months ago and month and more i don t like special counsel but i don t see the way the fbi could investigate themselves and each week more members are calling for it. what if president obama called the clinton investigation a hoax or cal