nuclear deal, the paris climate deal, daca that helps people who come to the country without papers stay here, dodd/frank and our renewed relationship with cuba. obama s pending agenda items like the transpacific partnership, the confirmation of the judicial confirmation of merrick garland and the closing of guantanamo base are now unlikely come to pass. i m joined by andrew sullivan of new york magazine. you said he was going to win. he did. now what? well, now we see what donald trump really is. the way you ve been presenting it is if you think donald trump is some totally new person, that he can just create a tabla raza. he is just going to be this great leader of a mass movement. but i think that s very hard to do. he has been very explicit about so many of these promises that the bottom line is going to be how does he pull that off without alienating either the rest of washington or his base, actually. okay. we re going to have to take a break right now. we ll be right bac
and that i think paid a price for hillary with all the events she did at the end. i was thinking what happened not many years ago. remember scott brown won the upset. yes. he was coming out against the wine and cheese liberals of boston. and he rode around in a you can interest. all he had to do, this guy, this middle class lawyer, possibly upper middle class lawyer with a wife who is an anchorwoman. all he had to do is drive around in this truck that got him elected in an upset election there. your thought. populism used to actually belong to the democratic party. and it was almost always a democrat who was a populist. yeah. i think donald trump figured that out. and the same i m who went thought the primaries and cast their vote for bernie sanders because bernie sanders had a message that appealed for the forgotten and left behind american who was wondering what happened to america and washington, a lot of the people who voted for bernie sanders went out in wisconsin and
system and take advantage of it where they don t have that option. and i think that created a resentment that scored points for donald trump quite frankly. what do you think of that, steve? i think john is absolutely right. i think there is a cultural and elitism that sort of exudes from the establishment that the middle class and working folks just resent. and, you know, hillary clinton has for a long time been part of washington. and as john points out, to many of those people she is somebody who learned how to play the game, played it quite well. and she was always at a disadvantage because it was third term, you know, that she was seeking effectively for the obama administration. she had been around for a long time. she had been beaten up for a long time. this was always going be tough. she ran i think a great campaign. but there are no question the people who felthey were left behind were lashing out at washington and s was more washington than donald trump was. and that s why
their previous lives there is no reason to think that trump wouldn t try to make some kind of gesture to her. and you re right about her thanking the troops. and she went one better later in the afternoon. she called in to an ice cream social staff meeting at the brooklyn campaign headquarters and thanked everyone there. and i m told that that went a long way to making people s feelings easing people s feelings. go ahead, robert. chris, you know what that was? you got the president coming out today, conciliatory tone, peaceful transfer of power. you have secretary clinton getting up on stage, same tone. it s a message to trump, president-elect that they want this country to move on, have a peaceful transition to power, and it showed some class for someone who is a total outsider. that s a message to the new president-elect. can he bring that same kind of message and approach to washington. it s so much better, guys, than what we saw eight years ago when barack obama was elected
infrastructure. we re talking about infrastructure in their statements. they know on stuff when you talk to democrats today on the phone, they know on things like the wall they re likely not going to be with trump. but they see in trump someone who is not a paul ryan. he is not a ronald reagan in terms of how he sees the world. i agree. how he sees conservative policy. so he may get the supreme court. he may let tax reform come through for the speaker. but on something like infrastructure, he is not a traditional republican. i agree completely. i had an argument here last night. there i believe is a lot of people in appropriations on the republican side. there is certainly a lot of democrats who love creating jobs, love spending money to create jobs. it s what democrats do. public works going back to franklin roosevelt. i don t know why they can t fix all the bridges, fix the airports, fix the train stations like penn station which is hell in the basement here, you know. it s ter