for example, debate along time on replacement, let s debate. let s bring them to the floor, let s have amendments, let s have votes, and let s vote on the final passage on vote repeal and replace it on the same day. republicans have some great ideas on replacement. some of these i agree with paul ryan on. for example, letting individuals join a co-op or a buying group or what we call an association health plan. this will guarantee issue, meaning that you won t be excluded if you are already sick or have a pre-existing condition, but it does something that no other plan does so far. it gives you leverage to get a cheaper price. right now, my fear is if you pass the obamacare lite proposal, the individual price of insurance premiums is going to continue to skyrocket. that is my fear. i don t want any part of obamacare, so i m not going to vote for obamacare lite, i thik it still allows the prices to continue to rise. eric: senator paul, thank you for joining us
asking for. conservatives are asking for perhaps halting the expansion of medicaid earlier. cuts to medicaid earlier, more quickly than before. would you support those changes? john, actually i appreciate what poppy pointed out, we re living up to the promises we made to repeal obamacare. i appreciate the explanation that we re in a three-step process. we have legislation now, we had the administrative actions that the secretary of hhs, tom price, can make. and subsequent legislation in fact this week, virginia fox led the fight on education workforce for association health plan. we re following through, poppy, on the promises we made to the american people. but not totally, if you go with this bill, you re not, because what was promised well what was promised by the president was complete repeal of obamacare and some of the key parts will stay in this bill. and that s why members of the freedom caucus and others don t like this one at all.
easier formation of association health plan, tax deductible in the individual marketplace for nose w those who don t get their insurance through an employer-sponsored plan. that s the kind of plan we think will lower costs. we combine it in one piece of legislation. these are ideas republicans have championed for years. let s pass the replacement bill, too. why does speaker ryan not like your idea? i think there s concern amongst a lot of folks particularly some republican governors about the medicaid expansion, making sure it stas stays in place for longer than two years. that s the concern amongst some members probably. of course i think some governors that they ve heard from. in fact, one is the governor from our state who s been pretty outspoken on this. what we say is, look, let s go with the you still have that for two years, that s time for a marketplace to begin to form. and then those same people are on government health care now. we believe will have the ability to purc
difference in the role of government. we established that. what we say is this. our approach is an incremental approach. it is not do nothing. i think that s a tired mantra. do very little. it s an incremental approach. let s talk about doing the first thing which is bringing down health care costs. that s how this debate began over a year ago when the president had his first summit. then we go about trying to do the kinds of things we certainly the cbo validated that we bring down health care insurance premiums without a doubt so. that helps folks who have it. we can expand coverage. we also say look, we don t approve of denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions. it s not in your bill. it s absolutely in our bill. it isn t. we have a plan that creates at the state level which allows folks to access insurance if they are denied by their insurer. quickly respond to anything there that you think you should respond to. in fact, cbo estimated that both plans, bot
it s interesting, ron brownstein, and our congressmen and women will talk about the philosophical differences. for the talk of all of the petty politics one thing came through there are very big philosophical and ideological differences and how many should be covered given particularly the finances during a recession. absolutely. one of the real points that came out of the summit was the depth of the disagreement between the parties. and each party s health care plan i think largely crystallizes their view of the role of government and they differ not only in the problem but their definition their solution to of the problem. we re not really to use the president s terms comparing apples to apples. the democratic plan attempts to cover roughly by the estimates 33 million people who are uninsured over the next decade. the republican plan by the cbo covers 3 million.