tonight, that number is 130, 000, according to ukraine s military. president biden s team are weighing what putin will do next. tonight we re bringing you world-class analysis from world-class defensive diplomacy. i m joined by evelyn fergus, secretary of defense for russia, eurasia, and ukraine. and, former deputy terry assistant secretary of defense, michael mcfaul. , evelyn, good to see you again. thank you for being with us. there are a lot of people in the united states who see this as binary. is the united states getting involved in another war that may not be clear to everybody as to why we are getting involved, do you think that there are a series of actions of the united states can think ranging from sanctions to things that resemble military action that could actually resolve this? ali, thank you for having me on. i just want to reiterate what my colleague ambassador mcfaul said earlier. the biden administration, nato, it s not interested in any military fight with russia.
and missile campaign on key ukrainian military infrastructure including airfields, air defense, and warning systems. joining me now to discuss the threat, evelyn parker, former u.s. department assistant secretary of defense for russia, ukraine, and eurasia. evelyn, it s good to have you on this morning. thanks, jim. when you look at that build-up and the u.s. intelligence, not just on the number of forces there but on the plan, which includes, among other things, to encircle the capital kyiv within 48 hours, attack at multiple points across the border, when you look at that intelligence and then you hear today the russian president on russian television speaking to his foreign minister saying, well, diplomacy isn t exhausted. is that a real chance for diplomacy, or is that more misdirection? i mean, i think obviously, to be perfectly honest, i don t really know.
scheduled for thursday between secretary blinken and the russian foreign minister that is supposed to happen in geneva. so people will be looking to see whether or not that still goes forward. of course, here at the white house, they re monitoring those moves very closely that we ve not heard from president biden, we should note, in person on this yet. as you point out, the white house specifically said putin s latest moves represent a blatant violation of russia s international commitments. a blatant violation of russia s international commitments. i want to you stand by. i want to bring in our diplomatic editor, nic robertson who is in moscow. and the assistant secretary of defense for russia, ukraine and eurasia who is joining us. is putin on the brink of starting the biggest war in europe since world war ii? reporter: he is certainly giving indications that he s moving in that direction, wolf,
there is still talk of diplomacy. and russia releases images like this, to claim it s pulling out its tanks, pulling away from this brink, but this crisis still teeters dangerously on the edge. lyse doucet, bbc news, munich. i m joined now by graham allison. he s a professor of government at harvard university and former assistant secretary of defense in the clinton administration. thank you for being with us on bbc news, i think i am right in saying that a few weeks ago you were giving a four to one against there being any military action during the periods of the olympics. the olympics is almost over, the next 1a or 15 hours or so, what you think the prospects are now?- or 15 hours or so, what you think the prospects are now? well, about a month ago. the prospects are now? well, about a month ago. the the prospects are now? well, about a month ago, the administration - the prospects are now? well, about a
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