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some want to be free to be citizens but not a critical mass mere. jeffrey, you were writing this morning as you were coming in saying, wow, this looks like a pretty big victory for assad given where things stand. i think it s an unambiguous victory for assad and maybe for obama too but, look, a year ago we were talking about removing assad. now in a kind of perverse way we re partnering with assad on this huge project which i think is an outlandish project given that there s a war going on to remove all of the chemical weapons from syria. now he s invested in this. we re invested in this process in the same way and what is off the table is working to remove the regime because, remember, chemical weapons are ultimately not the problem. the problem is the people who use them and they re not only in place but they are now endorsed, they are part of a process. robin. well, look, this is something that concerns me a great deal because we are involved in what is just a deliver of thi

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would spin out. we can talk about the politics of it and what this means for the president. die believe his leadership has taken a knock here but the idea that there s a clean path if only we could have found the right people to arm is delusional. we tried the same path in afghanistan and we ended up arming people who ended up, the mujahideen who were the core of al qaeda. now, we can say, well, we ve got perfect clarity. we don t. we know that intelligence doesn t do that. syria is incredibly complex. there s a question of leadership but the outcome they have stumbled into is generally i don t think anybody is saying there is perfect clarity and it s equally delusional to think we ll go, if they don t comply to the security council where russia who not who doesn t even admit that assad has used the chemical weapons has got veto power. the russians yes, but any use of force requires their approval. no, it does not. no, it does not. as the commander in chief and

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130915:18:10:00

diplomatic breakthrough that is full of opportunity and fraught with danger. the opportunity is that we actually end up in a better place than we envisioned with the use of force, which is the elimination of all of assad s chemical weapons and his production facilities, in essence, closing down these factories of death. the fraught part is that, in fact, assad, who has still not said whether he has signed on to this agreement, ultimately even if he begins to move forward with some of the beginning elements of the agreement doesn t fulfill elements of the agreement as we move along, the russians find, as they often do, saying some in their mind some plausible reason why there should be no enforceable action at the united nations, and we re back to where we started except that assad has bought time on the battlefield and continued to ravage innocent civilians,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130913:19:00:00

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130913:19:09:00

anti-chemical weapons convention and at least have some of those chemical weapons destroyed? sure, i think that s true for several different reasons. first of all, it would be great to have assad on record signing the cwc because once he then uses the chemicals, it s harder for him to deny that he did because he didn t have them. he now has a legally binding commitment that opens him up to legal action and makes it easier to set the legal precedent for the use of force. remember, this time around, that was one of the biggest problems the obama administration had, especially with our international allies, there were lots of countries saying it would be illegal to use force against assad. this starts to the lay the predicate to how to make the case internationally. seconds, if you can get inspectors in there in some way and take the chemicals away, you are starting to erode the regime s capacity to use them.

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