holidays that to be acceptable consumers i don t think is all that likely to be except maybe something s a thrust upon us and we go along with it but i think the thing is that in actual fact germany is not proposing outright ban just as it hasn t done with plastic carrier bags i mean a lot of countries around the world have actually as you said they ve regulated they ve imposed bans jimmy hasn t done that it s there is a fee to pay for them now but still a lot of people use them and there s no sign of a band on the horizon we ve all heard of and seen the pictures of this gigantic plastic garbage patch in the us this is a pacific ocean. and according to recent study 90 percent of all the plastic of all plastic in the oceans comes from 10 rivers 8 of which are in asia 2 in africa so can we reach europeans and americans don t we just blame asia and africa and lean back and realize it s there that would be nice right but no i mean that s a study that has been it s been quoted a lot persona