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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20240604 02:34:00

and these two candidates, and it is a very narrow contest in that respect. ashis, you were reporting from london when margaret thatcher was prime minister. as steve rightly says, the circumstances are different, but the debate is very much, it seems, over not just taxation and the fact we have got the largest tax burden since the early 1950s under rishi sunak s chancellorship, so that is an obvious ground for liz truss to attack him on, but she also seems to be attacking what she calls the consensus of economic policy which has lasted for 20 years. that is arguably quite a radical position to adopt. yes, because britain had moved somewhat towards the centre in terms of economic policy, and therefore that is something that she is trying to yank out, it would appear, or at least that might be her attempt. whether that is the sensible

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20240604 10:55:00

because it is often a lousy job, being an attorney general, isn t it? it is a thanklessjob, - and the un has been absent in terms of the crisis dealing in the war between russia . and ukraine, but this is a win if it holds because it does- allow all of this foodstuff and it is notjust wheat l i mean, the soy the sunflower oil. i mean, i have been in ukraine. it is sunflowers forever, - and the sunflower, all of this is necessary for cooking in places like africa. - so, yeah, but again, - the proof is in the pudding because the awkwardness of, yes, it has to be guided out| past the mines, that ukraine has laid to protect itself - from a russian invasion of its southern ports, . and then it has to be escorted every step of the way. - there is the potential for flashpoints. - mistakes, accidents, whatever they may be. just last point, ashis,

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20240604 10:34:00

70s and early 80s not the situation that we are in it now, but she cast a spell over its membership and these two candidates, and it is a very narrow contest in that respect. ashis, you were reporting from london when margaret thatcher was prime minister. as steve rightly says, the circumstances are different, but the debate is very much, it seems, over not just taxation and the fact we have got the largest tax burden since the early 1950s under rishi sunak s chancellorship, so that is an obvious ground for liz truss to attack him on, but she also seems to be attacking what she calls the consensus of economic policy which has lasted for 20 years. that is arguably quite a radical position to adopt. yes, because britain had moved somewhat towards the centre in terms of economic policy, and therefore that is something that she is trying to yank out, it would appear, or at least that might be her attempt. whether that is the sensible thing to do, i don t know, for the simple reason tha

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20240604 10:56:00

i asked the question we are in danger of not answering. why did erdogan keep putin waiting for almost a minute? in these heavily choreographed public events, it is quite humiliating. yes. i think this is a part of the blow hot, blow cold relationship, and i think he also realises that putin needs this meeting. he needs to be seen in this international arena with the iranian leader and so on. so, yes, i know he is a very shrewd player. i am not very sure whether he is great for the world, but he is very much there. ashis ray, steve richards, michael goldfarb, as you all are, thank you very much. thank you for your company. more from a dateline same time next week. have a good weekend. bye bye.

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20240604 10:32:00

safe passage of grain, why he himself was kept waiting. with me, cricket commentator ashis ray, and michael goldfarb, foreign correspondent for pbs radio in the united states, and podcast host, and steve richardson who began his career as a westminster correspondent as margaret thatcher was ending hers coincidental. his blog is called rock & roll politics, his most recent book about the talented politicians who failed to make it to number10. steve, we will leave the the question unanswered of which of the current two might be that person in any future addition of the book. what do you make of the choice that tory mps have presented party members with between liz truss and rishi sunak? i think it is extraordinary because in a very erratic way, with both theresa may and borisjohnson, you could see attempts, chaotic injohnson s case, distracted in may s case with the brexit, attempt to move on from thatcherism.

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