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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111203:20:38:00

arty was marie noe s last baby. marie had complications with the delivery, and was given a hysterectomy. after ten dead babies over a span of 19 years, it was over. marie could no longer have children. there was another investigation. what police thought would be their last one. marie and arthur noe were given lie detector tests. at the time, they were told that they passed. in january of 1968, police weren t sure where to turn and the case went cold. coming up, police turn up the heat on marie noe. kind of slammed a book down on the table and said, marie, it s time. come see the tree there s presents underneath it and i know there s some for me get moving mom and dad wake up already please! how can you still be sleeping when it s six a.m. at least? so meet me downstairs, and make it fast

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111203:20:44:00

information that could help them secure a confession. after an expert looked at a lie detector test given to the couple in 1968. police learned it had been misread. marie noe did not pass the test as previously thought. and arthur noe s results were inconclusive at best but leaning toward deception. the cops described the situation where when mrs. noe started thinking about that she was going to talk to them, she actually put her hand on one of the cop s legs, which the cop thought was a little strange. they didn t quite know what to do about it. but it was part of the dynamic of seeing that she was sort of connecting to them. and i think there was a little bit of good cop, bad cop in that situation. and then she just started telling them. almost 50 years after her first baby died, and after burying all ten of her children,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111203:20:43:00

we released the article to them the minute that it was available. and what i was told was that they took the article, they highlighted it, the parts that they needed for information, and they went and took the noes in for questioning. we weren t told about any of this. it was all happening in secret. on the evening of march 25th, 1998, arthur and marie noe were taken to philadelphia police headquarters, separated and questioned. this was the first time, according to police records, the pair was questioned outside their own home. and the first time they were questioned separately. they spoke to mr. noe for a short period of time and spoke to mrs. noe for a long period of time. mr. noe was sitting in the area watching tv, not understanding why his wife, they were taking so long with his wife. two detectives questioned marie noe for 11 hours. approximately a week before they brought the noes in for questioning, police got some new

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111203:20:06:00

priest and told her of her intentions and he told her that this would be a mortal sin. and that she could not do this. and so she didn t. three years later, in 1955, the noes fourth child, arthur jr., was born. this child comes out of a very mysterious set of events. mrs. noe was reported being attacked exactly nine months before this child was born. the emergency room report did not show any signs of any kind of sexual violence, but the bottom line is that exactly nine months from that day, her fourth child was born. just 12 days after he was born, marie took arthur jr. to the hospital, saying he had difficulty breathing. the baby was examined and discharged, but the very next day, marie said she found arthur jr. not breathing at all. the cause of death was listed as bronchopneumonia.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111203:20:25:00

under her care so that she is getting the same benefits of the sick role, that is, attention and concern. she s left herself in good health but weakened the child s health. dr. feldman s main field of study is munchausen s and while he said marie noe s case isn t completely typical of a munchausen by proxy case, it still fits the bill. marie noe got attention each time she brought her babies into the hospital. turning blue and gasping for breath. having the child be terribly ill over a period of time was probably a little gratifying for her, but not as gratifying as being a bereaved parent. marie noe granted many interviews in the past but declined our request. when contacted, arthur noe said we re both sick and we just want to live out the last few years peacefully.

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