discharge was untruthfulness. it was found that in the course of the investigation of his original allegations that he had been untruthful and the board of rights based on their examination determined that he should be discharged. i discharged him as chief of police. he subsequently appealed to the court system in california and lost in the court system. so there was a review by the california court system of the actions of the los angeles police department. and they were upheld. what does a person like this in a stressful situation like that guilty or innocent or whatever degree of guilt, what do they do when they see an armored personnel unit pull snup they know there s nothing to do. in a barricaded negotiation, you attempt to reduce the stress, the tension. i was trained many years ago as a negotiator. in this instance there will be an effort to kind of calm this thing down.