authority on stephen bannon other than, perhaps stephen bannon. were you surprised by the timing of this? i was a little surprised by the timing of it, because the role trump really plays for bannon, he isn t so much the great manipulator that he s portrayed as being on saturday night live. he is bannon s ultimate soldier and attack dog, winds up in crazy crises where everybody else abandoned him. back in the campaign it was true, during the access hollywood scandal. bannon engineered a way out of that for trump and we seem to be involved in the same kind of situation now in the wake of charlottesville. every fortune 500 ceo abandoning trump. republicans, congress, abandoning trump. steve bannon is the one guy who stood up for him and publicly defended him. i m a little surprised he was pushed out right now at this pivotal moment for trump s presidency, because this really leaves trump without anybody in the white house willing to go out there and defend him against the toughest
and jen, you work for the obama white house, and president obama made tough personnel decisions. i don t know of anybody quite as controversy at stephen bannon but he fired a couple national security advisers. there were moves like that. how much does how much difference does it make to fire somebody like that? well, you can argue that steve bannon s role or relevance in the white house was overstated. certainly he was a big part of the campaign, and that i think was because he shared, helped promotes and ideology he shared. no one staffer particularly changes ultimately the ship the president is leading himself. so for president obama i remember one of our early firings was the social secretary. seems quite quaint at this point. now, steve bannon s role, what s clear from this is that if you re on the wrong side of jared and ivanka you re probably
we re back with breaking news in our the lead. steve bannon fireds. joining me to talk about this, thanks for joinings us, congresswoman. good to see you. do you support the president firing steve bannon? well, i support any changes in the white house at this point. i think that this is probably a, a showing of general kelly shaking things up knowing that things aren t going quite well in the white house and, you know, i think this might about good move. hopefully anything is better than nothing, and the aftermath, after the president s initial response on the nazis marring on charlottesville and what mitt romney said on facebook today, what the president communicated
nazis and white supremacists. we can disagree on the means of promoting the general welfare of the country, on the size and role of government, on the nature of freedom and security, but we cannot take the side of what we know to be evil. with me now, james, mnuchin s former classmate who actually wrote the letter. matthew countryman, who is the one who start third-degred this thing. so gentlemen, welcome to you. thank you. all right. so, matthew, you took this idea to your yale class of 85 facebook page. we understand the why from reading the letter. but how quick was the response? instant, actually. so, i had heard that trump had said something but i didn t get to see the video until you recall evenin early evening a was so shocked and to see my classmate there, saying not a word, was just so disturbing, so upsetting. to give validation to the forces of racial hatred in our past was
that s the question. who is left in the white house to advocate for that position? as you look, the people in the white house aren t typically conservatives who think that should happen. the dean of powells, the cohens, jared kushners. how many conservatives are really left in this white house with the republican president? i don t know if conservative is the right word. nationalists, maybe? different, all the words don t mean anything anymore. stick around. everyone, take a quick break and look back over perhaps the toughest week president trump has had. stay with us. for your heart.