as much as others on the network have enabled him. and we can never forget, ari, i know you don t, that this was a guy who for three years ran around saying, i have evidence that the president wasn t born in hawaii! i have my investigators! you can t believe what they re reporting to me, you can t believe the information i m seeing, information that we never saw. that even didn t make to it newsmax. so this is a fellow who again and again commits the same crime. we shouldn t be surprised. and it s too bad that so many people have fallen for it. and now you see a lot of republicans, tom cole is an exception, who still try to apologize for this. or at least pretend it s not a very serious matter. david, i think you may have just coined a new standard. the not even newsmax will touch it standard for those who
trying to be strong while leaving some options open. what did you hear in tillerson s statement there? is it normal or different? ari, it may have been normal in the sense that there s nothing new, there s no news. if all the secretary meant was that all options are on the table when we consider what to do about north korea and a policy review, then he s said what other administrations have said in this context and others. if all he meant, if all he meant was that if north korea was about to strike one of our treaty allies, republic of korea or japan, or the united states of america, that in that case we would feel free to preempt that strike, that s still nothing new. we would expect nothing less from our president. however, if he meant something else, if he meant that we were not going to allow that north
complicated. that s a real quote. diplomacy is exhausting. she s travelled a lot, right. getting things through congress. it s not about strong or weak. i work the in the senate, lawrence worked in the senate. it s not about whether people are aggressive. right. they re all aggressive. they made to it the u.s. senate. like people who tend to be president are aggressive. that doesn t get you over the line. there s a lot more nuance and collaboration that s required. do you think he s evincing it yet? no, i don t think so. i think he s going to have a tough time, one, because he s never held elected office so understanding how politics works just in a really basic level is going to be it s been difficult for him, it will continue to be difficult for him. but also, you just can t strongarm your way to passing a legislative agenda. that s not how this works. and the guy who sold trump university to people and stole their money should he s not the one that i m going to believe whe
there s a lot more nuance and collaboration that s required. do you think he s evincing it yet? no, i don t think so. i think he s going to have a tough time, one, because he s never held elected office so understanding how politics works just in a really basic level is going to be it s been difficult for him, it will continue to be difficult for him. but also, you just can t strongarm your way to passing a legislative agenda. that s not how this works. and the guy who sold trump university to people and stole their money should he s not the one that i m going to believe when he s saying, you re going to like this plan, trump care s going to save you so much money. i don t believe him. you re saying he stole the money in fairness, he did give $25 million of it back when he was forced to in court. right. i mean, listen. if you re going to be fair. yeah, totally, thank you for being fair, ari. i think, like i was saying, i think that donald trump can t say something when
former members of the clinton administration have said the u.s. considered a strike on a north korean facility in 94 when it was on the brink of producing weapons-grade material. ambassador robert ga lucci was the chief negotiator, distinguished move soar at george town. let me start with the interpretive question. nothing new about the u.s. trying to be strong while leaving some options open. what did you hear in tillerson s statement there? is it normal or different? ari, it may have been normal in the sense that there s nothing new, there s no news. if all the secretary meant was that all options are on the table when we consider what to do about north kea and a policy review, then he s said what other admintratns have said in this context and others. if all he meant, if all he meant was that if north korea was about to strike one of our treaty allies, republic of korea