he is very pleased with himself. when rand paul is pretending that he is the voice of reason and perhaps conciliation on immigration control, you know on immigration reform, you know this bill is in some trouble. probably trouble in the house too. ari, we do have this situation where you have the rand pauls who are probably looking to run for president. you have a lot of pre-presidential 2016 politics mixed in with 2014 politics. it seems like we have a recipe for absolutely nothing getting done. the challenge for the white house is to try to build penalties in to this system. jonathan was talking about what moves, in terms of the pressure. i went and counted all the house votes that have been held this year. 211 votes. by my count, there was only one related to jobs at all, sort of returning veterans jobs program. so 1 out of 211 is really bad, really, really bad. a failing grade. what the white house has to do is really build that message and basically say, we see you.
journalists was criminalized. the leaker, if you are working for the cia as he did or the nsa, you are taking a oath. if you break the oath, you have to suffer the consequences. that s why he is in hong kong. you have to say in his defense, he has decided he will never live in the united states again. that s a big decision to make when your 29 years old. at the same time, ari, i come back to this again, i think there was an attempt to portray this as being exactly what george w. bush did, something outside the bounds of the law, when, in fact, the law at requested, he voted for the 2007 act that made this go through the fisa court. there is a clear difference. what we had under george w. bush was warrantless surveillance of the con ten. several senior republicans, including james comey and robert mueller threatened to design. i am not a big fan of the
of derive suspicious from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer. i am joined by ari melber, joan walsh and jonathan alter. i will stipulate i didn t think there was anything that newsworthy in the interview other than he is in hong kong. that s where he is hiding out. the interview wasn t contentious. it was an interview by a supporter of his, a sort of soft interview. i thought in that answer he got to what the potential real sort of worry is about in these programs, which is they are collecting all this huge amount of data. an inefficient way to do law enforcement in the near term. if you ever wanted to go back and look at something someone did before, you can string together the bit of someone s life. i think the question is whether there is the proper oversight and accountability. the history of expansive surveillance in america is an ugly history. it was the fbi counter intelligence program that was
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us here hold the secretary of state to a very different standard than most cabinet members. we want someone of independence. okay, ari, that s bob corker lying about these mythical standards of secretary of state. said she campaigned for george w. bush. this is crazy stuff they re talking and. condoleezza rice after stanford was a political adviser to w. bush an it s not a problem as long as you take the role seriously. the expectation about what you do once in office. i think it s sad, also, a misunderstanding of the senate s role what some of these republican senators are saying. they have a role to they don t have a role to block and filibuster endlessly. when they have tried to block nominee, it has boom ranged on them. that s why now in the senate because they played so many