but more importantly, there will also be a team coming out here to negotiate with the afghans for u.s. troops to stay beyond 2014. you ve heard a lot of talk about 2014 as a new sort of deadline on the horizon where combat operations will end, but it is clear that isn t gates feels that u.s. troops should stay beyond that, and they re going to begin to negotiating with the karzai government about that. on libya, i asked him whether there was a role for u.s. involvement, whether he could see military intervention there and he really pushed off that possibility, he said nobody is talking about any u.s. troops on the ground there at this point in tim. fforel st saidt a seetary there areo hisowlge for u.s. special forces on the ground in libya, but if you listen to secretary gates, he is very reluctant to use the military to be involved in any ayit regard to the ibn crisis