that can make a story, you know, really people passionate about it. one of them is emotion and partisan politics, and this story has both of those things. because, obviously, january 6th has been widelien condemned by widely condemned by most people who aren t super fringe right. but because it was so awful, i think it creates a lot of passion in the democratic party and people are, obviously, really going to be following a story like this. howard: i think what paused a lot of journalists is he had been cooperating, and he wrote a book and then suddenly citing executive privilege and now risking prosecution. executive privilege doesn t extend to mark meadows. we all know that, and donald trump is no longer president. that aside, howie, you said it. we can t even go beyond. he defied a subpoena. i have a jury summons on my desk