to be united around that concept and not let other things get in the way. at least around that we must be united. why do you think republicans can t get behind that? i think we are incredibly polarized as a country right now. many have seen the pugh diagram that shows that the parties were mostly ideologically overlapping in 2004 and before that. now they are moving to the extremes. there is still a space in the middle of people who aren t ideological. they aren t caught in the orthodoxy of partisanship. they want practical evidence based policy making. they agree on a lot of issues. but there is no empowerment of those people right now. the parties and other political machinery support increasingly the extremes. extremes, yep. there was a letter and some communication revealed recently between intelligence leaders clappers and others talking about how we can t raise this during election because basically the american people
if we want to protect america, protect a free america, we have to be united around that concept and not let other things get in the way. at least around that we must be united. why do you think republicans can t get behind that? i think we are incredibly polarized as a country right now. many have seen the pugh diagram that shows that the parties were mostly eye deyojically overlapping in 2004 and before that. now they are moving to the extremes. there is still a space in the middle of people who aren t ideological. they aren t caught in the orthodoxy of partisaninin shhh. they want practical evidence based policy making. they agree on a lot of issues. but there is no empowerment of those people right now. the parties and other political machinery support increasingly the extremes. extremes, yep. there was a letter and some communication revealed recently between intelligence leaders clappers and others talking
you know. if i hear that. he does not talk like that. i want to say really quickly. alex is screaming in my ear again, what trump proves to me is what i said since my first election when i ran 22 years ago, americans just aren t ideological. they just aren t. at the end of the day, they vote on gut. i always tell the story about i campaigned for a year-and-a-half. i knocked on 10,000 doors, i sweated in the hot florida sun and then i went to wave right outside the both. right outside the voting center and i saw the people coming in. and i just turned around and i walked to my car and drove because they said, they are not focused on my 4-point plan on trade with mexico. it is not up here. it is all a gut reaction. who is going to fight for she in. they were watching that gut reaction now. people like trumpl. they think the guy is telling
the activist types. they don t feel like their party leaders are necessarily doing all that much to advance their agenda. look at obamacare, it s turned out to be a complete disaster. everyone put their hopes into that but they wanted a single payer. they didn t get single payer. she s going to have to run repudiating a lot of this stuff just to build a base among the independents and among people who aren t ideological. she s going to get all the left wingers as much as they complain about her. they re still going to vote for her. they hate tea party types and conservatives more than they hate establishment democrats, so you re absolutely right about that. the gender thing will be big. and any time you criticize her, then you ll be anti-woman. yeah, that s a snore. but elizabeth warren i think is interesting to a lot of folks on the left. martin o malley, but hillary, if you have to bet today, it s going to be hillary and probably jeb bush. i think a lot of people will see a r
the activist types. they don t feel like their party leaders are necessarily doing all that much to advance their agenda. look at obamacare, it s turned out to be a complete disaster. everyone put their hopes into that but they wanted a single payer. they didn t get single payer. she s going to have to run repudiating a lot of this stuff just to build a base among the independents and among people who aren t ideological. she s going to get all the left wingers as much as they complain about her. they re still going to vote for her. they hate tea party types and conservatives more than they hate establishment democrats, so you re absolutely right about that. the gender thing will be big. and any time you criticize her, then you ll be anti-woman. yeah, that s a snore. but elizabeth warren i think is interesting to a lot of folks on the left. martin o malley, but hillary, if you have to bet today, it s going to be hillary and probably jeb bush. i think a lot of people will see a r