exactly. like keir starmer is a massive football fan. he likes going to football grounds. that also makes sense for them politically because of the image it projects, but he is a genuine football fan. some of them aren t always, and we did have a bit of a laugh about it on our show this morning. but the main thing we talked about this morning on the programme, not exclusively, but we talked a lot about health and social care because there s been lots of chat this week about it, partly because big plans for social care have not featured in the labour and tory manifestos, even though we know it s a huge issue for listeners and viewers and people around the country. but the lib dems, interestingly, have got.they ve majored on social care in health in their manifesto. and hilary gordon, newscaster thank you for your message says, thank goodness we have some politicians who are proposing that all parties get together to look for a long term solution to the nhs and social care
people travel more than than they did before. arthel: but you heard charles watson story in atlanta at hartsfield jackson, as of midnight international travelers coming to america will no longer be required to test negative for covid-19. i mean, so is that a safe move, we are talking about people coming back and forth from different countries? i mean, are we safe? well, everybody has the opportunity to protect themselves at this point. so i think rather than focusing on what is what the government is doing or not doing or what the restrictions are which aren t always, you know, held very well. i think people that really want to prevent getting covid or spreading covid should wear a mask and very good mask on an airplane because you re more likely than ever to be in contact with somebody who has and it s always a good idea not to travel if you re sick. arthel: well said dr. anne, i wear my mask when i travel. people look at me like i m
not broad deficit or deficit targets that punt the questions to the future. and with the exception of tax hikes, which in my opinion will destroy american jobs, everything is on the table. will, what serious conversation about debt reduction begins by absolutely taking the possibility or discussion of tax hikes off the table? not very many serious discussions. i don t know. i remember when i was little, my dad took me to a car dealership and said, this is how you buy a car. i remember they wrote the numbers down on a piece of paper and slid them across the table. my dad s offer was excessively low. that s the only comparison i can make. i look to guys more like tom coburn. you can t question coburn s ideological position. i hope you re right. that s what people around me at the speech were saying. it s an hoping salvo. jean, if we wanted to keep our debt at the level that it s at right now, not reducing it just simply keeping it from growing through spending cut, we d h