they have other children, all the other children are in foster care? reporter: switch other children are in the foster care system right now and that reassures a lot of people those children are no longer with those parents. all right. gary, appreciate the reporting. joining me kathryn head of ethics and also, aravia martin. hard not to get furious when you hear this case. parents do not get a religious exemptings. you can make a martyr of yourself but not children. they do not get a pass. there are a couple exceptions. we do a lot parents to say i m not going to vaccinate my child. so we have built it in. the difference here is you can t say no to therapy. if there is a proven established therapy insulin for diabetes,
the judge rejected that. he said this isn t a close case. he pointed out the first case of their son dying when they thumbed their nose at the law and he says the third degree murder charges will stand and the husband and wife face 20 to 40 years in prison fan found guilty of that. were they in court together? reporter: they were. he s in jail and she s out on bond. he walked in and looked around, saw her, smiled at her and she looked straight ahead. her father sitting next to her and he smiled at his son-in-law a very strange and horrible situation. they have other children, all the other children are in foster care? reporter: switch other children are in the foster care system right now and that reassures a lot of people those children are no longer with those parents. all right. gary, appreciate the reporting. joining me kathryn head of ethics and also, aravia martin. hard not to get furious when you hear this case.