strategist, steve bannon, and son-in-law have been clashing, that son-in-law being jared kushner. that s word from a number of news sources and denied by the white house. joining me is jonathan swan from axios.com. your latest article how trump diffused west wing feud for now. let s dive into that because there s been so much i guess interest in the enigma of these three figures, not only just kushner and bannon but reince priebus involved. explain the rub or where they went sideways. well, there was always a rub between steve bannon and gary cohen, who is donald trump s top economic adviser, and that was really a matter of policy. steve bannon is an ar dadant nationalist and cohen is a liberal democrat and has much more of a globalist perspective.