reporter: aside from the shotgun 38 caliber revolver, demetrius was armed with explosives. police a four pipe bombs were found inside the school and texas governor greg abbott confirmed other devices have also been located. when reason is concerned about explosive devices is various different kind of exposed devices have already been detected. one was co2 device, another was a molotov cocktail and various other types of explosive devices have been identified in a home and a van. it remains unclear if the suspect built the devices or if any of them exploded. the columbine school shooting was planned as the school bombing. on the morning of april 20, 1999, eric harris and dylan
asides from a shotgun and pistol, pagourtzis was armed with explosives. 4 pipe bombs were found inside the school and texas government greg abbott said other vice devices have been locateed. various and different kind of explosive devices have already been detected. one was a co-2 device. another was a molatov cocktail and other times of explosive devices identified in a home as well as in a vehicle. it remains unclear if the suspect built the devices or if any exploded. investigators say on the morning of april 20, 1999 harris and klebold placed two 20-pound
they could see the s.w.a.t. team running inside the high school, running outside. they were so terrified while they most horrific event was happening right next door to them. parents walking. this is less than half a mile toward the middle school, walking to get to their loved one, hug their child so tight, as they grab them knowing their child is okay but there are many parents out there who are not going to be able to say that tonight. shepard: we don t know how many just yet. we know since columbine in 1999, there have been 25 fatal active school shooting incidents at elementary and high schools in america. columbine was april 20, 1999. 13 fatalities and more than 20 wounded. also in 99, a high school in
community was retraumatized because what happened, even though it s been 14 years ago. steve: yeah. brian: does it show us that we didn t learn anything from what you guys went through or does it show that some of the security measures in place show there is more of a general awareness now because of your tragedy of you guys? i think there were lessons learned. it was my hope after april 20, 1999, that the students who lost their life and the teacher who lost his life at columbine high school would not die in vain. i know there have been security measures that were imcompleted as a result of columbine high school. but as a result of some of the new procedures in place, i think there have been several instances since columbine that were stopped as a result of a heightened awareness of school violence. steve: it sounds like they had done so many of the right things, installed the buzzer at the door, the door was locked. but the guy blew the window out
assisted with the shootings at columbine. virginia tech, and aurora, colorado. first of all, thank you for joining us today. a day that is really hard to grasp for so many people across this country. but on april 20, 1999, you were on the scene at columbine. what, if anything, can we learn from that tragedy and apply it to the one that s happened yesterday? i think what we can learn is what these type of events do is they shatter the assumptions we have about the world. like somebody was saying earlier, you have an assumption that your children are going to come back alive. they re not going to be massacred. so when these events happen, they shatter those assumptions. i think what we learn is how do we rebuild that in a timely manner so folks can carry on. heather: what time frame are we looking at? from your experiences in the past with columbine, virginia tech, most recently the shooting that happened in aurora,