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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:18:00

election views. trump ultimate patly backed down from that plan after multiple top officials said they would resign in protest. claire, as a former prosecutor, former senator, i m fascinated in what stands out to you in this indictment. also pointing out this is his third indictment, and, unlike the documents case, which is very grave, very serious, there s a lot of opportunities in the mar-a-lago documents case for trump s attorneys to slow things down. there s classified documents that have to be handled very carefully, lots of ways this could be held up, and there s a judge that some say might be leaning toward trump, appointed by trump, criticized for some of her actions earlier on. the difference here is this actually, and correct me if i m wrong, this actually could be a speedy trial with a judge that is, let s just say, highly

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:19:00

respected. yeah, and respected by both sides, by the way. let s make sure we point that out before all of the character assassination begins on this judge, which will happen, if it hasn t already, it will happen probably beginning today. listen, here is what struck me when i read the indictment. it s no different than what you have been talking about this morning. two things in this country right now are 100% republican. one participate of that is the evidence in this case. it is 100% republican evidence. it is his advisers, it is his officeholders, it is his aides, it is his campaign officials. they are all republican, they are all trump supporters. that s the evidence in this case. the other thing that s 100% republican in this country right now are the people that are lying about this, continue to lie about this, and who have allowed trump to do what jon

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:27:00

judge saying no, and it spelled out here, we talk about it early in the 6:00 hour donald trump s vice president, senior leaders of donald trump s justice department, donald trump s director of national intelligence, donald trump s department of homeland security and cyber security calling it the most secure in american history, senior white house attorneys telling him no. you have absolutely no fraud here. senior staffers on the 2020 re-election campaign whose sole mission, as jack smith points out, was to get donald trump re-elected. would have been a far more powerful, far more wealthy in the future had donald trump won. donald trump state legislatures and officials supported trump through and through and then, of course, state and federal courts. we talked about rusty bowers, the speaker of the house, can he

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:41:00

they don t fear donald trump. they hate donald trump. let me say that again, kevin mccarthy, these other republicans, they don t fear him. they hate him. they fear his supporters. they fear his supporters will turn the channel to another network. they fear his supporters will vote for another republican. that s a toxic relationship. they fear that. we see and hear republicans, listen, i m a conservative. i voted for trump. i wanted him to win. i love the constitution more than i love donald trump. i will not lie for this guy. i will not betray my country for donald trump. and so, again, that s what s so disappointing with some of these people we see who spent from november the 4th to january the 6th undermining american

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:40:00

proof goes, where that persuadable number of republicans can really come into play, and then let s also not forget the verdict of history here. i hope we are at the largest number of people who really, truly believe trump and it s all diminishing from here. that s where i hope we are. if we are there, this trial is going to be an important piece of that puzzle to obliterate this conviction that so many americans have that there was something wrong in 2020. and that s why it s so key to bring this case. you know, david, i remember, and i ve talk about it before on this program, i remember my dad who, of course, my parents, like your parents, i m sure, very conservative southerners, southern baptists, grew up shaped their politics shaped in large part by the chaos of

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