give to pack up and give someone else a chance. all right. okay. anton, now i m going to need you to keep it real. you worked with kathleen sebelius. i have been literally on my blackberry since last night. the sense that i m getting just from people that i have talked to is that essentially it was a combination. that essentially she was the clock was kind of ticking from the time the health care.gov website stopped working and there were factions that really wanted her fired, essentially, or thought she should be, but that the thinking in the white house was that she shouldn t leave on a low note. she should leave on a high note. she should delay until they got to that deadline. is that what you are hearing? tell me what your friends are you don t have to name them by name, but we want to know what you know. i think you re correct. kathleen has been a tremendous leader at the department, and everybody knew that her task would not be done until we got through the first open e
eric cantor said because nine and a half million some odd people anton, i do want to talk a little bit about there is a sense that there is health care critique. we do a lot of work on this. in the sense that the issue is not as potent anyway in the midterms. in a sense having kathleen sebelius walk away from it helps the health care law itself be on the stable. i m assuming from your point of view that you think that s a pretty good place to be. it is a great place to be. the main point i would say to that is it is time to get past all the rhetoric about health care. secretary sebelius was a lightning rod for a lot of reasons, and she was a successful leader. the stuff she was able to get the republican governors to say yes to medicaid expansion and allow them to have health care in those states, it s something to be laweded for, but it s now time to turn the page and figure out how can we show the law for
now the republicans are forced to deal with a message of taking something away from people, and politically that is a death nail. absolutely. medicaid expansion, i submit, and i think you and i both agree, is going to be a huge issue in november. another enrollment period is coming up in november. absolutely. excellent panel. thank you, guys. karen finney, anton gunn, igor, thank you. do not miss disrupt with karen finney which is weekends at 4:00 p.m. eastern saturday and sundays here on msnbc. karen, you re great. coming up, police are still trying to figure out a motive for that stabbing rampage in a pennsylvania high school, but one thing police do know is that the 16-year-old suspect is a quiet, reserved kid. we ll talk about why that could speak volumes about why it happened. first, let s go over to northern california where a team of federal investigators is trying to piece together the moments leading up to a fiery crash that left ten people dead. including at least
and in presidential politics, the push is on to put another bush in the white house but would jeb really want to move to washington? and he is not only listened but learned and now he is taking action. owner of washington s nfl franchise making a move to make amends with native americans but many say it is just not enough. and what if you could capture, capture solar energy in outer space and beam it back here to earth? it may sound out of this world but it could be a reality and it s today s big idea. whole heck of a lot to get to this afternoon but we start with the latest on search for malaysian airlines 370. australian prime minister will visit. bill neely just got off an australian search plane that reported seeing multiple objects in the ocean, more than that crew had ever seen of particular interest, we re told, to that search team, three large orange objects that measured three feet by seven feet. we are going to get a report from australia in just a few moments
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