100 percent, it s not going to happen. it is merely a scare tactic by antiimmigrant forces. it s not going to happen. thirty people is nothing in our system, and this, as you said, they re not going to meet the third class membership membership in a social class, no matter which way you look at it, and 30 people right now, it s not a burden on the system, and jamie: shouldn t very be turned away immediately and deported? because we live in a country that at least guarantees a process before you re denied any rights that you claim to have. it s really the only country in the world that has it. i think it s beautiful. and it s not a big strain, really. it s just we need to process it. they re not going to qualify, it s not going to open the flood gates, but it really is being used as a red herring so we don t undertake the real debate about whether we need immigration reform in this country for the people already here. their children on jamie: let me ask you about that, john,