colleagues or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony. without identifying any of the individuals involved, let me show you a couple of samples of answers we received to this question. this is a call received by one of our witnesses. quote, a person let me know you have your deposition tomorrow. he wants me to let you know he s thinking about you. he knows you re loyal, and you re going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition. i think most americans know that attempting to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully presents very serious concerns. tonight, cnn has learned that this example and one other example that congresswoman cheney highlighted were both directed at cassidy hutchinson. cnn has also learned more about this, ms. hutchinson s testimony about what fellow white house staffer anthony renato told her in the presence of secret service head of detail on january 6th. it was about the ride the former president wanted to ta
engel. and when mr. renato had recounted the story to me, he had motioned towards his clavicles. and was mr. engel in the room as mr. renato told you this story? he was. did mr. engel correct or disagree with any part of this story from mr. ornato? he did not. did they after that tell you what mr. ornato had just said was untrue? neither mr. ornato nor mr. engel ever told me it was untrue. so there s new reporting on that tonight as well as the apparent attempt to influence ms. hutchinson s testimony. cnn s ryan nobles is up on capitol hill for was more. what more are you learning about that alleged incident in the presidential suv back on january 6th? reporter: well, of course if
staffer anthony renato told her in the presence of secret service head of detail on january 6th. it was about the ride the former president wanted to take to the u.s. capitol and what happened when he was told no. the president had very strong, very angry response to that. tony described him as being irate. the president said something to the effect of, i m the f ing president, take me up to the capitol now. to which bobby responded, sir, we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engle grabbed his arm and said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we re going back to the west wing. we re not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to lung towards bobby