My ambassador of assistance as well . They did. And if i said that number ambassador sondlands use of was circa in the military that term was that the three assistance around 270 million. Would that probably be people three people in accurate . Close. Charge of the ukrainian about right . Yeah. Did they get aid in policy. He ambassador volker and secretary perry. What did you come when did you come to learn about fy18 . Yes, sir. Including security mr. Giulianis role and what do you consider his role to assistance . Have been . Including Security Assistance. We have already talked about the javelins, the antitank missiles that they i heard about former mayor were not able to purchase in Previous Administrations. Giulianis interest in ukraine in january of this have they gotten Security Assistance in fy19 . Year. That was a different phase yes, sir. Prior to the 400 million than what happened during the summertime. Was it normal to have a or so that were discussing person who is a priva
Obligation to account fully for my role in these events. Did by obligation, you mean simply your legal obligation . Or did you mean something bigger . Well, both my legal obligation and my moral obligation. Your moral obligation . I actually want to present an alternative theory. Your family came here escaping the holocaust via uruguay. And your parents moved lucy and later you here where, frankly, youve been an american success story. Through dent of hard work and innovation, good idea, and knack to hire the right people and some luck, youve built a considerable successful business. One that i know for a fact would make your parents proud. They came here because they knew
that it was here that they could have freedom that they had not enjoyed, security that they had not enjoyed, and opportunity that they had not enjoyed. And no doubt, on some level, youre grateful and its created a sense of patriotism in you. Is that fair to say . Very fair. Why then, sir, with your courage to come be
Ambitions. Our selfrespect. Our love of freedom and the rule of law. Our fierce constitutional patriotism. Now, it looked like President Trump might get might get away with his ukraine shakedown. After all, most americans didnt know anything about it. And the few who learned of it would be too afraid, too intimidated to cross the most powerful man on earth. Fr President Trump could rest easy. But if donald trump misjudged the american character, the framers of our constitution did not. I count 17 honorable Public Servants who came forward to testify over the intimidation and disparagement of the president. Is that right, mr. Goldman . Yes, there were 17. And i count a dozen Career State Department and National Security officials who served republican and democratic president s alike, over decades, who came to testify. In fact, four of President Trumps own National Security councils staffers, hill,
vindman, morrison, and mcguyer, came forward to report trumps scheme to nsc lawyers as so
Zelenskys inauguration in may, i believe you testified it was one of the largest delegations . I believe it was. I cant be 100 sure. I believe it was the Largest National delegation. Okay. And included in the delegation was Secretary Perry . Secretary perry, ambassador sondland, myself, senator ron johnson was there and also the charge daffaires at the u. S. Embassy at the time, joe pennington. We talked a little bit this morning, but president zelenskys inauguration came together rather quickly . It did. I believe we had about three days notice in which to put the delegation together. Theres been some discussion whether the Vice President was going to be able to lead that effort and as it turned out he was not able to lead it. Do you have any information as to why the Vice President was unable to join . I dont. And mr. Morrison, do you have any information as to why the
Vice President was unable to participate in the delegation . No. Ambassador volker, you testified during your deposi
Phoebe with ambassador taylor, was he assesssatisfied that thie was now behindti him . I dont really know, because when i responded, get ahold of the secretary, and he said i agree. I never knew i whether he reach out to the secretaryhe or not. That was sort of the end at one point in the text you said lets get on the phone, you said youre an individual that doesnt like to walk through these issues on texts when you can talk about it on the 1 telephone, correct . I say that to everybody when something becomes more substantive than a few lines of text, i say, lets talk. Did you say that to ambassador taylor . I dont recall. I dont recall whether we spoke after that or whether he called the secretary. Basically, mr. Castor, wanted to get the notion across that ive gone as far as i can go with this, you need to youre the ambassador, you need to pick up the ball and run with it at this point. Okay. Just getting back to the irregular channel, did anyone else express any concerns to you abou