all right. take a look at this. have you seen cars like these on the roads? all right. so the chances are you probably haven t. that s because driverless cars like these are still in the testing mode for the most part and there s no broad legal framework for how they re going to be regulated. just a scattering of local laws in a few states. but today a really strong show of support from the obama administration as it announces a commitment of almost $4 billion to the development of autonomous vehicles. andrew hop kins is the transportation reporter for the verge.com and he joins me now. good to have you here. just explain are we really that close to having this type of technology on the roads? or is the $4 billion going to get us there? it s probably a little bit of both. a lot of experts say within five to six to seven years that we can see these vebs on the road