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Life or radiolab or whatever, that is part of their selfdefinition, it now feels in the culture, generally, i think, like this is the big leagues, because what used to be the big leagues have shrunken a lot. So now were kind of on not only in audience terms at an equivalent place, but public radio and everybody in it, sometimes they succeed, sometimes they fail, but they are all trying to make stuff that they think is great and they think their audience will think is great without any other imperatives getting in the way. A lot of listeners to the American Life have told me, like, theres a wave of shows that when they heard them for the first time they didnt realize radio could do the things that we do. You know, like, im told often, like, by people the first time they heard this American Life, like, they didnt think a radio story could be good, could have characters and emotion and you stick around because you want to find out you get caught up in it you know, that you would get caugh

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