some stick from some corners of the world is like what you have a lot more faith and some. let s talk a little bit about voles borg and braman tonight s result pretty indifferent for both the one one draw doesn t help either side all that much but there s been a lot going on behind the scenes we both borg got rid of andres younker brought in martin schmidt alexander durie the coach at braman if he doesn t start picking up wins he might be in trouble where these two clubs heading right now in nowhere. especially with us. now but if you if you look at the past those folks changed their manager in the past eight years ten times better braman only five still they are more or less in the same area and the bonus they get meaning it doesn t really help to always change a manager so they should have a bit more face in the manager and i think it s that for for the sporting director for all of have it it might be his last shot when he got in the new manager and what do you think of it do you see