ocasio-cortez. the democratic majority in 2018 came on the backs of moderate democrats in suburban areas. there are a lot more of them, they re just not stars the way aoc has become. you cannot have a house majority without a tent, without a lot of ideological iteration. it s been less of a problem for the democrats, simply because nancy pelosi is good at her job and good at balancing all of these interests. but there are a lot of establishment democrats who worry this liberal energy is going to be a bad look for them, it s going to overreach, turn off those americans who consider themselves moderate. americans that they need to win elections, if the party becomes identified with what the president is talking about, you know, what he is describing as socialism. you do have a lot many democratic office holders now, openly identifying themselves with socialism.
detroit, for example. let s dive deeper into the politics of this whole amazon situation. joining us now is molly ball, and nathan gonzalez. molly, what does amazon s new york city pull out tell you? is it a clash of old versus new blood? or progressives versus moderates? how do you see it? i am not privy to enough details of exactly how much influence alexandria ocasio-cortez had on the issue to talk about that side of it. in terms of the debate we re hearing in the democratic party. that s something that is very much happening right now. it clearly has a lot of power. you have a lot of democrats who are uncomfortable with the kind of energy that congresswoman ocasio-cortez represents.
it s going to grow. it s not just elizabeth warren. a host of other democrats that are taking a stand against corporate america. and i see that that s going to grow as we go on. it s not just alexandria ocasio-cortez. freshmen dems, there are a few others that have been shaking things up. they ve become a new target of the president. listen. they introduced the so called green new deal. i really don t like their policy of taking away your car. taking away your airplane flights. let s hop a train to california. you re not alone to own towels any more. is it good news in some way for nancy pelosi, have these freshmen dems become the new villains for the republican party? most of the freshmen dems are not on the side of alexandria
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what they need, children get what they need. so you just got in there. and i know you got lots of good ideas. but i would encourage you, to sit still for a minute and learn the job. martha: charlie? welcome to the 2020 campaign cycle. i think we re going to be seeing it this for the next few years [ laughter ] the whole reason that nancy pelosi and chuck schumer went out last night to deliver the remarks is that they re desperate to not only counter president trump but to give a reasonable response for their party. of course that gets completely undermined when you have somebody far more exciting and youthful and says quite frankly crazy things, like ocasio-cortez talking about how un-american the ice agents are? this is like really super fringe stuff that even democrats don t agree with. but honestly the biggest problem i think remains that not