A normal no now mr di ambassador taylor you testified that there are 2 channels a regular an irregular what did you see as digital eyes rolled in and ukraine policy. Contra i came to see that mr giuliani had a large influence on the irregular channel and was that normal is that normal to have a private citizen of the United States take an active role in diplomacy it is not normal it is is not unusual to ask for people outside the government to give opinions to help form the policies of the Us Government is unusual to have a person. Put input into the channel that goes contrary to u. S. Policy thank you and youll back mr turner and you are going to ask for 5 minutes. Thank you mr this investor to thank you for your service i have a great deal of appreciation for your profession you have very little direct contact with Decision Makers tremendous amount of responsibility and not a lot of authority on to affect u. S. Policy bilateral engagements or multilateral engagements youre trying to