i ve talked to a lot of friends in the fbi and outside in all of us are concerned about the irregularities of this and the top level of the fbi in the last few months. tucker: i can see why. mr. clave and, what do you mae of the press coverage of this? i think it s a scandal within the scandal and almost as bad as the scandal with the fbi. we just finished watching a spielberg movie the post about how brave the washington post was to defy the nixon administration and to bring out the pentagon papers despite s their cries of hurting national security, now suddenly national security is sacrosanct. i remember decades of the left squealing about j. edgar hoover and his unjustified wiretaps and now we are told that unjustified wiretapping is a nothing burger. the press has done nothing for this past year but whine about how donald trump has slapped them back and forth.
citizen who has in the years since shown no evidence at all that he s working for the russian government.er carter page has been under surveillance fore the fbi since 2013 and he was told that he was being recruited by the russians. tucker: you re missing theay spirit of i m not saying he wasn t t surveilled. in order to beat surveilled the obama justice department had to make a case thatwa a he was a foreign agent. that is a slander against him. where is the evidence he was working for f russia? this memo isn t concerned about evidence. since 2013, the fbi has been warning carter page about russians trying to recruit him he continued down the same path. tucker: he s guilty? do you think carter page has betrayed this country by working for a hostel for a nation, that s the claim the obama
monitor him digitally need to demonstrate to a fisa court which is a court that meets in secret that there is probable cause to believe that he is an agent of a foreign government or a terrorist organization. they convinced a judge, a fisa court judge thatt there is probable cause to believe that he is an agent of the russian government. tucker: how often are those requests turned down, do we kno know? almost never. there is something like a 99.8% approval rate. the fisa court is a joke in terms of whether or not it provides real safeguards or oversight for how the nsa andnd fbi can spy on american citizen citizens. they rubber-stamp whatever it is that s put in front of them. democrats used to say that a lot when george bush and dick cheney got caught spying on americans without going to the fisa court, thegu argument of the busht administration was it s so burdensome, it s so easy, they
including at least part of mccabe s testimony and part of these requests. probably eventually, what s interesting about this, the democrats were complaining that the release of this four page memo would compromise sources and methods, destroy the ability of the american intelligence community to collect intelligence, all of that is obviously nonsense. what is clear now is that huge amounts of underlying intelligence have to be declassified and have to be shown to the american people so they can understand what tom just described. the fbi and the doj conspired with the democratic party, thepa dnc, and the hillary clinton campaign to exonerate her of violations of the espionage act and trying to prevent donald trump from becoming president, to frame him up for a nonexistent crime of collusion. we sued for the underlying
and outward malfeasance. while the press stood by, afraid to lay a finger on a president who they looked at the first black president and as the spokesman for their point of view. they didn t want to touch him and when you have no press the government is going to get out of control in the obama administration did. tucker: do you think it is in the fbi s interest to declassify what it can as it pertains to this investigation? things that don t jeopardize our national security. tell us more. the natural tendency for me in any other fbi official would be to say no. in this instance, the answer is yes. this goes way beyond what the fbi does, what the case is about, and what the particular series of circumstances is. this goes right to the idea of civil liberties and the balance of the fbi s responsible between