When the governments of Spain, Norway, and Ireland together announced that they would recognize a state of "Palestine," they assumed a responsibility as patrons to the putative 23rd Arab nation. It was a bold move, but it was all for show. They are out
they condemned violence, so therefore, this one psychopath is not their responsibility. and it was something that was so cold and so hard to rationalise that it did eat away at me in a way that i felt like i could just accept well, my family is condemning this violence, and yet this movement. and getting close to a college community of people who i cared about, i knew, i loved, who. many of them were not white, many of them werejewish, and they felt afraid of what i represented and, if not specifically me, they felt afraid of the people in this movement who commit mass murders regularly and the fact that i was connecting them, connecting this campus to that world. publicly, yourfather, don black, has said about stormfront that the number of killings that are associated with his website is as high as it is, which is close to 100, because of breivik and him being responsible for murdering 77 people. he said, we ve had
a few people who ve gone on shooting sprees. most were domestic issues that didn t have anything to do with politics . when you look back now, do you think that you, because you were a part of what stormfront was putting out, that you have a responsibility over what breivik did? i certainly feel an enormous amount of guilt for everything that i wrote as a teenager, and especially in later years, because i advanced ideas, concepts like white genocide, which is exactly what motivated breivik. this idea thatjust immigration and intermarriage is genocide to people is something that white nationalists use to justify any action, they use to justify any amount of violence. and the fact that i put things out that i could never take back is something that i m committed and i have been for the decade since i ve condemned white nationalism to advancing the cause against it. but no matter what i do,
do you remember that moment? do you remember hearing about it? you were still in the movement at the time. yeah. what happened ? violence from this movement was so common my entire life. it was something that.we rationalised, my family rationalised, because they explicitly banned violent rhetoric on stormfront, on my dad s website. people could be banned for that. and breivik wasn t banned because he never said anything explicitly violent. hejust said everything else about this ideology that i was growing up in, and that ideology named its enemies. it said, who shouldn t be here? who didn t belong? muslims. breivik. . .. breivik talked about norway being flooded by muslims. all of his murders, he justified with exactly the ideology that my family and i were advocating. and yet, every time murders like this would happen, they would say, well,
i can never take back any essay i wrote or any person who i persuaded to get involved in this movement. it s diffuse and i can t always trace it, but feeling that responsibility is something that i ve never been able to rationalise or move past. is it. is it a real transformation? because i think some people, especially if they know even from beyond this interview about your past, will really struggle to reconcile it with what you are saying now. how exactly did it come about? breivik was a searing moment. what about the people around you at college in florida? it was that community that i sat with for years who caused me to change my life. it was an experience where i had gotten to know them, and it wasjust a small community. it was a group of people who are now some of the most