the president, ukraine doesn t know any money is being held up and we release the money. laura: every time wharton s aunt lynn says the president says this is no quid pro quo, he won t take that for an answer he is arguing with the conversation at the president has already had with i other people, he is upset about that because that narrative collapses.ll i highlighted and i dog-ear it, back in law school, thank you for being here tonight. joining me now, ken starr, former independent counsel, fox news contributor. i want to read you something from bill taylor s testimony. by mid-july it was becoming clear to me that the meeting president zelensky wanted wasin conditioned on the investigation of burisma and the interference in the 2016 election. it was also clear this condition was driven by the irregular policy channel that was guided by mr. giuliani. did taylor actually advance the
with regard to ukraine, we were standing strong with ukraine against russian aggression. the last administration was onl sending them blankets. we are sending resources and missiles, we re going to make it possible for them to defend themselves. laura: were you ever comfortable with giuliani s role in getting involved in this? it s not against the law appear my involvement in ukraine was all directlyol from my conversations with the president and my conversations and meetings with president d zelensky. what i can tell you is that throughout all of that, we were focused on ensuring the united states was standing with ukraine for its territorial integrity against russian aggression and we were supporting and encouraging ukraine to deal with years of corruption and calling on european allies to do more to