and this is a really wide net. now that we have chris krebs confirming that he did speak with jack smith s team in early may, obviously he wa the top for people who don t remember him because it was obviously a really chaotic period, he was the top election cybersecurity official. and he had said this was one of the safest and most secure election in u.s. history. trump directly said that was why he fired him. what do you read into the fact that jack smith s team is not only speaking to him but they re also asking questions about the timeline surrounding his firing? yeah, to jack smith is a career non-political, very serious federal prosecutor, like laura before she left for higher pastures. says the man of the courtside podcast. oh, my goodness. thank you so much. wow. that s touching. what i think he s trying to do is really demonstrate something we call mens rea, criminal intent, which is did donald trump act with corrupt intent. and the way we do that is to look at starti
directly link the president to his son s business dealings. the white house has maintained all along that biden had no involvement in those business deals. i m joined tonight to talk about the investigation here that is underway into the former president by former federal prosecutor and cnn anchor laura coates, and former acting solicitor general neil catchall. thank you both for being here. laura, neil, actually, let me start you, because you re joining me here for the first time. the grand jury we all thought was going to meet today, they did not actually go there. we were there all day s taking out the courthouse, as cnn s team always is. they didn t show up. what does that seem to fight? you very hard to read much into it one way or another, kaitlan. i mean, it s reading tea leaves. it could mean there is an indictment it s already been voted on by the grandeur last week. you know, jack smith did issue that target letter last sunday. we haven t actually seen the text of the lette
he s got to tweet about it or use this, whatever is called, social media thing it s called. and alert the world that way to it. so, i think smith probably understood the timeline this time is going to be less than 20 days. laura, what do you make of trump saying, as he did in new orleans tonight, saying i m not concerned about another indictment, say i don t really know anything about that? i mean, i know, even just behind the scenes, he s been talking to his legal team nonstop about it. and he was the one who told us he got the target lever in this investigation. sure, you are not concerned about. okay, that sounds implausible to me for a variety of reasons. one being of course, on the one hand, certainly he has been conned teflon don. it has faced a whole lot of accountability or a lot indictments at the federal level. but on the other hand, this is still a serious allegation that has been looming, not only in manhattan, of course, which is considered maybe less or the indictment
jack smith s team is not only speaking to him, but they re also asking questions of the timeline surrounding his firing? yeah, so, jack smith is a career non political very serious federal prosecutor, like laura before she left before oh, my god, the fan of the courtside podcast, thank you so much, wow, touching. and what i think he s trying to do is really demonstrates something we called mens rhea, criminal intent, which is did donald trump act with criminal intent. the way to look at that is starting in february 2020, as the cnn story yesterday show, that smith is investigating people that told trump and just how secure elections. we re so, before the election from believe this. during the election, trump since smith is interviewing temporary getting contemporary evidence about what trump said to people in the oval office in those meetings. and then after the election, going up to january 6th. all of this is part of a piece to show the criminal intent
here, the corrupt intent is solid. and i suspect jack smith believes this. and laura, i m so glad you brought up this podcast, because you have this interesting podcast where you sit down with celebrities and you talk to them about what we re talking about right now, what s playing out, the biggest legal issues that we re talking about. right now, you had one, he spoke to john mulaney, i want our audience to listen to that. we re kind of in this perpetual season of presidential investigations in impeachment. morrison v. olson brings out some interesting questions, some of which were stole, it already, some of which still linger about who can investigate a president, and how long they can do that for. the idea of how special counsel s work, how it s changed is fascinating in and of itself and worth reading a whole book about. but the idea that you re sitting down with celebrities and talk about this, that is that commonplace that everyone is kind of well versed in how special coun