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talked with anchor hala gorani. this is the moment where the crowd, where the street, where the people had maximum leverage. they ve used it. they ve got something. but what they ve got to hope is that this doesn t end up being a symbolic victory. they need it to be a substantive victory. the symbolic victory was mubarak leaving. the substantive victory is that the regime is transformed from what is still a military dictatorship into a liberal, secular democracy. now the military in egypt is a trusted institution, it s not a democratic engine for change in egypt. is there confidence out there among observers that the military has not just the will but the ability to usher true change in egypt? it s a fantastic question, hala, because the reality is the military is deeply entrenched in

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