rangel some of the more conservative catholics around the world and some people who say he should be talking about issues like abortion. priests in the united states say he should be talking more about abortion. i was going to say much of that criticism has come from priests in the united states. they are looking to their pope to speak out and adopt a tough line on gay marriage and abortion and things like that. pope francis says the church is set on this and we don t have to talk about it, he says, in this interview, all of the time. another illustration of how he wants to shift the emphasis away from these controversial issues. it also indicates he is a conservative. he not looking to change doctrine. he wants to emphasize things like poverty, the plight of immigrants and conflict in the world. he wants a bigger, broader