to continue to halt the nuclear testing and missile testing. they re going to continue to halt and put a cap potentially on their nuclear miff program. just enough where he s going to be able to walk away and say declare victory. peace declaration saying we have formally ended the war. that s the thing. the white house in the last few days has been saying they ve been kind of tamping back a little bit that the possibility that there might be a peace declaration but in exchange for the united states dropping the sanctions. do we get a sense there be some major major announcement that will come out of this meeting? well, it s, of course, hard to know. but i think we have now moved past the point of our initial demands for complete and verifiable irveersable denucl r denuclearrizati denuclearrization. sue is correct we are probably moving into an area of compromise with the north
you got to ask my lawyer, michael cohen. first all of cohen has obviously stuck with his decision not to become a former cooperator, either with the southern district of new york or with the mueller team. he s chosen to become america s cooperator because now he s going to talk directly to the american people. and you re go having to viewership that could rival the super bowl. he know as lot. he knows mob sfruf example. he may not want to talk about that because of fear for his life. he may know russian stuff unfear for his life. so he s not as they say a fully cooperating witness. he still has a privilege against self incrimination. the sulgtern district of prosecutors were amiff because he wouldn t tell them everything. if he starts to back up, invoke as fifth amendment against
queen of soul. now earlier i went in to pay my respects as well. there are pictureses that the associated press is circulating showing the body of arena franklin dressed in red cocktail dress. a pair of red pumps with feet crossed at the ankle. said this is the style she would have liked to represented herself in final going home ceremony. there will be viewings all day until tonight. tomorrow as well. a tribute concert on thursday night and service is friday. invitation only. expected to see a fleet of pink cadillacs. that s one of the famous aretha songs we all like to sing to. she will be missed, but never forgotten. always have our respect. that wraps up this hour of msnbc live. miff good friend chris joins me now. she ll always have our respect and we will always have her music. the fantastic part to this.
doesn t understand that that this is not something that a president should joke about because people are standing at attention for kim jong-un because he could fire a ballistic miff at you. he could kill you with a chemical weapon as he did to a family member in an airport in malaysia last year. i mean, this is he is a terrifying person to the people who work for him and live around him and live under his thumb. and it s not a joking matter. it s the opposite of a joking matter. and i m looking at those numbers, nick, in terms of we showed this segment before this in terms of how americans processed the summit this week and the lesson i took from it seemed to be from a bottom line standpoint people do like the idea of some kind of engagement is, some kind of dialogue even with enemies even with people like kim jong-un. i do wonder how much latitude they re willing to offer a president when he comes back and
who commit crimes against national security can be pardoned. and i don t think anyone in the executive position wants to do that. i appreciate you coming on the show and talking through this with us. thank you. i m going over to sara and vivian now. sara, both of you guys were nodding and reacting during valerie s interview. i think regardless of what you think about the ethics of this miff, whether you think it s unethical, it would be a political move from the white house from their perspective. explain that. because i think instead of talking about how potentially unprecedented trump s efforts to evate the special counsel are we d be talk about the parallel to the plaintiff there, relitigating whether it was fair for scooter libby to be the fall guy as conservatives described him at the time. and a lot of conserve tichstives came to the defense of the bush administration in a way that they haven t for trump in the russia affair and i think that could be a conversation he wou