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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140624:19:18:00

by the american military. maliki is no longer being considered a scapegoat. he s the problem. he was given an enormous opportunity by our american military to rebuild iraq. he had the table set for him. what he decided to do was govern in an intensity sectarian way where he created the them anity of the sunnis that had to be part of the government. now we re seeing the manifestation of that being played out, and he s a discredited leader, and in my view, there can be no future in iraq or any prospect of success with maliki at the helm. and should we turn our air force into the maliki air force to try to make up for his failures? my strong view, no. yeah, the question s can you possibly put these pieces back together. the best case scenario for iraq is devo lugs of power from the center of baghdad to local shia sunni arabs and kurdish communities. the worst is splintering of the country to three separate

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140624:19:38:00

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140624:19:20:00

security forces that were trained by the americans, for the islamic state and its allies, it s been a joyride. this is truly a turning point in the history of modern iraq and the history of the modern middle east as well. and fawaz, as you know, there s continued pressure being put on the prime minister of iraq, al maliki, to step aside, not just from the united states, but obviously parties within iraq. they re saying they re going to reform the government as soon as july 1st. but as we see in many cases, for there to be real meaningful change, there has to be a leadership change. do we need to see the prime minister step aside before we can actually make real progress? well, you re asking really very important questions. first of all, nuri al maliki is very toxic. he s very toxic not only for the sunni arabs, he s very toxic for the sunni kurds. as you heard today from the president of kurdistan. even he s toxic for some shiite who blame maliki for autocratic,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140624:19:14:30

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140624:19:14:30
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140624:19:17:00

offered to the kurds and sunni arab communities? what key positions can be offered to them to try to bring them into the fold? i think that s always going to be the tough sell. as we have seen iraqi leadership do in the past, they failed at trying to get all these people sitting around the table and sharing power equally among them. always great reporting from ayman mohyeldin. thank you very much. let s bring in democratic congressman peter welch, who nervous on the national security subcommittee, and the director of the middle east center at the london school of economics. congressman, there is a fundamental question at the bottom of all this. can american military forces, great as our military is, can they be used to shape iraq and perhaps the broader middle east? for at least 30 years, we ve been using our military to try to shape the middle east. it generally does not work. can we use our military to shape iraq? my view is no. this is an iraqi political problem, and it can t be

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