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congressman jim himes of connecticut. congressman, thanks for joining us. good evening, wolf. let s begin with this newly released voice mail from the former trump attorney john dowd to an attorney for michael flynn. is this the first time you ve actually heard this recording? first time i ve heard the recording. of course, the transcrypt has been out there for a little while. this is just of a piece with what we know to be true about the president and his lawyers, which is they were doing everything they could to keep people from breaking and supporting the government s case. we saw it everybody saw it. you didn t need to have access to classified information to see that the president said that paul manafort was standing strong and was admiring him on twitter whereas michael cohen who was cooperating was a weak m man. this is all part of a major effort, probably an illegal
road related to those efforts. michael cohen came before my committee and talked about some of the editing of his statement and michael cohen, obviously, not the very most trustable of witnesses. but, nonetheless, it paints the picture of just a unified effort on the part of the white house and the president to keep people from cooperating with the investigation, if they couldn t bring it to a close. the speaker, as you now know, and nancy pelosi has told some of her fellow democrats in the house this week that she would rather see president trump in prison instead of impeached. do you want to see president trump in prison? wolf, look, you know, probably 30% to 40% of the american public wants to see this president in prison. i think what nancy pelosi is saying, first of all, i think she s channeling the emotions of a lot of people who are very emotional, who look at the
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mexico tariffs. and he s been weighing in from here. but press secretary sarah sanders just released a statement, wolf, saying that the president has not changed his mind. that the tariffs are still set to go into effect in mexico on monday. and, wolf, the president would have to sign an executive order by tomorrow in order for those tariffs to be averted. wolf? we ll see what happens. pamela brown in ireland for us traveling with the president. now to capitol hill here in washington. a source tells cnn that the house judiciary committee chairman jerry nadler has said he will subpoena former special counsel robert mueller within weeks. let s go to our congressional correspondent sunlen serfaty. nadler s subpoena threat comes one day after he told me here in the situation room he hoped he didn t have to resort to that kind of subpoena. what are you learning about the democratic strategy right now to get mueller to testify? well, negotiations, wolf, are still going on between the h