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because they were consuming territory and the population of afghanistan at that time. what do they think now in 2014? i think right now we re looking at this through an american optic. i used to get paid through to look at problems like this through the optic of the adversary. spend a moment going through their lives. 13 years ago they were right on the cusp of taking over that country. they owned 80 plus percent of the territory. they re about ready to take over the final piece in northeast afghanistan. then you had thine one one attacks and western, american-led invasion. the disaster for taliban it was reversal of their dream taking home the victory over the entirety of afghanistan. i think these guys are thinking now the americans are leaving. the president has said we re out. these five losers are going home and they re going to be part of a i can have at this celebration when the taliban after the american withdrawal starts to take over again. bill: start your scenario, itorg n