that s the question. what i was saying before about clark s he has less reason to do it, more incentive may be to come forward. but the issue is not who has privileged, the issue is can they get into a court. barbara this is where it strikes me, that pressure, maximalism, maintaining, it pushing ahead, doing which you need to do, if you truly believe with the folks in this committee say they believe. which is they are investigating the worst act on the capitol since 1812. the most agree just violation of democratic transfer of power since for sumter. you have to use the means at your disposal. to get the test that you need. i think that s right, congress has three methods for compelling testimony when someone defies a subpoena. one is an inherent power of calling upon the sergeant of arms. that s the one that william barr joked with nancy pelosi about where your handcuffs. most of us know that s not going to happen. in this been a lot of talk about criminal contempt, of actually ch
of the will are just in the world that puts that more people imprisoned than anywhere else. it s just constantly this assembly line with like lucy and the chocolates, that s the way the whole thing worked. it s not law in order. it s not perry mason. it s not like trials with how much can we get done in one amount of time. and that s true here. it s part of the deeply systemic flaw of the entire system. right, and who can cooperate. who can cooperate. what can you hang over people heads so that they can get to people who are actually organizing and. but the prosecutors were making those decisions, and they re very hard to second guess, if the government tried for more. people tried about seditious could serious be, these cases would ve taken a very long time. and many of them likely would have not succeeded. so they re doing, they re taking with they can prove. yeah, it s a really good point. this is all other elements of american criminal justice, embedded in the scale of the sy
and you should just hold off at a signing year electors, or maybe tell the state legislatures that they can decide whatever electors they want. then he suggested that it be replicated in each relevant state. this was basically the doj using the power of the department of justice in the united states government, to intervene in states and given them cover to overturn the election. and sent trump electors to washington. early january clark s pressure had turned to this crazy outright threat, his own kind of coup within a coup in the department of justice. again according to the judiciary report, clark eventually inform the acting attorney general rosen, again this is his boss, that trump had offered to install him in rosen s place, and told rosen, he would turn down trump s off, or if rosen would agree to sign that proof of concept letter. clark has denied he plotted to overthrow rosen, but according to the report, trump in clark only backed off, they were nowhere meetings, the three are
department leaders, basically banned together and said we will over design and protest if you. do the fallout from that will overshadow what you re trying to do. in fact, former acting in general for its role in all this is been fascinating to see, remember william barr just handed him this flaming wreckage of the justice department. and piece that with the letter of how great trump roads. rosen just testified to the january 6th select committee, voluntarily, he didn t answer questions. looks like he was about eight hours. now the committee wants to hear from trump s apparent pick to replace him, that would be mr. jeffrey clark. and so they sent clark a subpoena today, asking him to produce documents and appear before the committee itself on october 29, if he does, appear it would show a whole lot allay on what exactly happened with the justice department, in the last days of the trump administration. obviously he s a person of. interest he s this central person in this saga.
particular episode, a tale of two jeff s. we know a ton about jeff rosen s perspective, he is actually been unusually forthcoming, regarding just about everything he knows, from his time running the justice department, through historically chaotic moment, we know based on conversations with folks throughout the day. that one of the key focus is now for the january 6th select committee, one thing that they re really pressed rosen, and when he was testifying, was clark s role, lots of questions about who clark was working with. whether it is working with people in the justice department, as well as who is working with outside the justice department. questions about the way clark was connected to strategies, to try to get the supreme court to step in, and overturn the election. as well as of course, with lots of questions regarding this effort to tell the state legislatures, falsely, that the fbi and found evidence of voter fraud, that state legislatures