of conservative and tea party groups. one top republican saying, the administration can t investigate itself. it s time to bring in somebody else. there s clearly an organized effort within the irs to target political opponents of the president. that is undeniable. how does such a culture come about? how vast was it? who was involved? this really calls for a special council. gregg: jordan sekulow, director of the american center of law and justice. his group is representing some of the targeted groups of the irs. eric holder recently announced a few days ago to joins a department of justice investigation. look, he is so compromised his own closeness to the president, not to mention his own scanned deals, hills findings, holder s findings would be inherently suspect and therefore the case does demand special counsel? gregg, you hit the nail
election. they admit they did it. jay seq. could you low is an attorney and counsel for the american center of law and justice. he represented 27 of the groups targeted by the agency. they admit they did it because you forced them to admit they did it. tell us how it started. it started with the number of what they call information requests coming into over 30 of these tea party groups and conservative organizations. and they came out fairly simultaneously. megyn, they asked for the list of the contributors who the donors were. who the members were. what the conversations they had with individuals. so all of this was going on in the form of what is called an information request. and when we got these, which, of course, was before the election as everything was heating up we sent back a series of letter briefs saying that the supreme court has already held that this information is not subject to inquiry. you don t give donor organizations. megyn: tax organizations and the irs is d
general reversed the jury s verdict and critics are calling this a case of the old-boy s network at work. and the ceo of concerned veterans for america and jay sekulow for the american center of law and justice. it doesn t happen this civilian court to have a jury reach a verdict and then have some commander step in and say, forget that jury verdict, i wasn t at trial, but i don t like this case, it smells wrong to me. i don t think this guy did it and that s what happened in this case. let me start with you, pete, the military guy. the military doesn t work the same as civilian courts and the reason for that. the pesky commander in charges of reviewing the cases under the the code of military justice. i would urge anyone to read the six-page report that he released. he thought long and hard about it, reviewed every document and came to the judgment that the conviction from the jury did not there was
his own treatment there. a psychological warfare, a year of not seeing my family, physical violence, actions committed to humiliate me, mocked, confronted with extremists in the prison who create another prison within the prison walls and the death threats. it is quite a story that this man has endured. saeed bed bread is one of an estimated 130,000 christians who are persecuted, tortured and who are killed according to most recent numbers every single year around the year. i am joined by nagmeh abedini, his wife and jordan sekulow, from the american center of law and justice. welcome back to the show, both of you. i m glad to have you with us. you have been so strong throughout this whole process but now you ve gotten a window into this letter what your husband is he enduring. how do you stand it?
his family says he s being tortured and being psychologically abused, and he s losing all hope of ever being able to return home to his family. jordan sekulow is executive director for the american center of law and justice the group leading the international effort to bring the pastor home. tell us about his state? what kind of information are you getting that leads you to believe that he s being tortured. sure, well his lawyer the day he was convicted, which was the 27th of january, this is lawyer said, listen, he looked horrible, an wanted to communicate that message to the pastor s wife who is here in the united states with their six-year-old daughter and four-year-old son. he s an american citizen here. he said listen he sounds all right, his mental health seems good, his spirit seems he s it for the fight and understands people around the world are trying to get him out and that s how you get out of this situation back to your family, but this past monday his family was able