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quickly. can go wrong very quickly. what happens for, for instance, if ukrainians flee overt border into a nato country, and are pursued by russian forces? do you worry the u.s. could get drawn into this conflict? that that s a great question. look. there will be there will be a humanitarian disaster if russia chooses putin chooses to make a large invasion into ukraine, and goes directly in the in the in the direction of kyiv. there will be a humanitarian disaster or there will be displaced persons. and of course, russian forces may pursue those. the last thing america wants, and i would argue the last thing russia wants, is for american soldiers and russian soldiers to get into a gun fight. we have never had one of those. never. never done it against the soviets. have not done it against the russians and is this the time and place we are going to do that? i don t know.

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