politics. we have seen cases of many, many cases in america of black men and women who happen to be right wing and are denounced as no longer black. women who have not women if they have the wrong politics. germane grier doesn t tick, one of the most famous feminists of the 20th century doesn t click the right box on the trans issue. doesn t get to be in the last day and denounced as longer a family nis. and this is, in america particularly, keeps betraying the facts this is becoming not about identity, not about equality all of us are on board with equality. it s become about bruit politics. it s in politics that s worse. it s in america where it needs to be exposed and undone. ainsley: douglass murray if you want to pick up his book it s called the madness of crowds. great to see you. my pleasure.