standoff, how america became ungovernable. it s out tomorrow, right? yes, it is. joe meacham, the soul of america, which came out a week ago, it s going gang busters so we re happy. correct. i thought when they said the president talks to someone every night, i thought it was him yelling at the tv to me, but that s not exactly it. bill, what do you make of the fact the president of the united states speaks to a cable news host every single week night? well, he watches a lot of television. yeah. i don t know how much he governs. he rather likes campaigning. he loves to go to these big rallies. he doesn t seem to like governing very much and he doesn t spend a lot of time doing it. john, new york magazine said more than most politicians, president trump abides by the groucher marx law. he seeks information as often and as possible from as vast and
standoff, how america became ungovernable. it s out tomorrow, right? yes. and also joining us is john meacham, the author of the soul of america, the battle for our angels which came out a week ago, correct? that s correct. i thought it was him yelling at the tv to me. but that s not exactly it. bill, what do you make of the fact the president of the united states speak tuesday a cable news host every single weeknight? well, it watches a lot of television. i don t know how much he governs. he rather likes campaigning. he likes to go to these big rallies. he doesn t seem to like governing very much, and he doesn t spend a lot of time doing it. he inherently distrusts anyone who chooses to work for him, seeks affirmation as often as possible from as vast a