we looked at everything. but we think this is a reasonable plan to get this country become on track. jon: all right. so you achieve some of those savings thusly by eliminating four cabinet agencies. rick perry wants three, you go for four. commerce, housing of urban development, energy and education. you end some government loans subsidies and aid, you supposedly can save social security through personal accounts and medicare seniors would have the option to buy into the same program that congress has? absolutely. if you want to really tackle entitlement reform you ve got to get back to the principle of choice and the principle of individual control over those programs. and the big dishonest thing that is going on in washington d.c. is this hundred trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities in medicare and social security.
that works just like they have let in audiotaping allow that to be released more quickly, eventually television will come. it is a little bit slow, slower than it needs to be. jenna: great to have your perspective. we look forward to having you back. especially if the hearing happens. that will be fascinating. thank you, tom goldstein. geraldo is with us. a couple sides we weren t able to cover with tom having to do with sound bites and showbusiness. that is a concern. one of the justices justice scalia had this to say. when i first came on the court i was in favor of having cameras in the court. i am less and less so. i don t want it to become showbiz. our sessions are open. anytime it you are in washington i urge you to attend i think it is a good show itself. what do you think?. i agree with tom goldstein the proceedings because they are so significant important to the american taxpayer should be broadcast but two words are the real reason why the
skye to the hospital at the time because he wasn t feeling well. still no information on where this little boy is. jon: right now, hundreds of tea party leaders are in washington unveiling an ambitious new proposal that they say will cut the deficit and balance the budget at the same time and they go a lot farther than the super committee is talking about doing. it has only six days to come up with a plan. this tea party debt commission says it has identified nearly $10 trillion in budget cut. they ll present their findings today at a joint house-senate hearing. let s talk about it with matt kibbie the president and ceo of freedom works that was heavily involved in 0 coming up with some of these ideas. the methodology, you asked some of your passionate supporters for their ideas, right, matt? we outsourced ideas from 50,000 activists. there were no rules on who could participate. we kneeledded to find out from
what is going on. but it just seems that washington is stuck in politics as usual. we ve got to shake that up. jon: matt kibbe is the president and ceo of freedom works. we threw a lot of information at our viewers there in that segment. we ll put all of those suggestions on our web side foxnews.com/ happening now so you can look at it there. thanks for being with us. jenna: this is to go really, really big. hey, it s nice to see different ideas being tossed around. go check that out. really interesting stuff. in the meantime it s a historical law impacting every single one of us in this country. but could the legal battle over the president s healthcare law also make supreme court history? we have a fascinating discussion straight ahead on that. plus, deadly storms tearing across the southeast, one man compares it to a scene from the wizard of oz. we ll have a live update as folks try to pick up the pieces. [ male announcer ] cranberry juice? wake up!
after child. jenna: let s stop there. fred, you say something is very unique to the state of pennsylvania as far as how they would go about an investigation like this, how they would use a grand jury. explain that to our viewers. sure, jenna. pennsylvania and connecticut are actually only two states in america other than the district of columbia where you do not indict by the grand jury. every other state in america the grand jury investigates and issues an indictment which is a charge. in pennsylvania it doesn t work that way. pennsylvania has what they are called investigative grand juries. here the ag formed a grand jury to do this they did so because they wanted to do a couple things. first of all they wanted to get mcqueary s testimony locked in under oath. they wanted victims in under oath. once they charge, the ag still charged sandusky. once they charge in pennsylvania this report everyone has read from the grand jury has to become public. it is called a presentment. that s w