aggression he may see, he may misinterpret that as being towards him, and it s not actually fact. i mean, we re just very aggressive people. so these are things that we have to learn. i first start off by going and telling the officers who i am, telling my story, and i m dressed sort of like a thug, and then i change out, once i m done, i change out and put on a nice suit, and they re like, wow. so that s that unconscious bias that we have. and my language begins to change as well. so i think it s imperative that these officers are trained and equipped with the necessary skills, because they re here, arthel, to protect and serve. i had a couple officers that put drugs on me when i was coming up arthel: i hate to cut you off, it s a fascinating story, but i want to have you on again. you have a perspective on how to teach both sides, the thugs as well as the police officers. ameer baraka, thank you so much, and nice to have you. and we ll be right back.